Comments on: Hymn for ANZAC Day http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808 Worship that works - spirituality that connects Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:39:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Geoff Bethell http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808#comment-4733 Geoff Bethell Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:10:24 +0000 http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/?p=808#comment-4733 Excellent. I came to this page simply because I was looking for an mp3 download of "the hymn we sung on Sunday". I found it by searching for: hymn honour war in Google and navigating to this page. I had no idea it was an NZ hymn. Certainly a tear jerker and certainly provides a modern realistic interpretation of what war is all about. Good stuff and deserves to be better known. Excellent. I came to this page simply because I was looking for an mp3 download of “the hymn we sung on Sunday”. I found it by searching for: hymn honour war in Google and navigating to this page. I had no idea it was an NZ hymn. Certainly a tear jerker and certainly provides a modern realistic interpretation of what war is all about. Good stuff and deserves to be better known.

]]> By: Bosco Peters http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808#comment-4642 Bosco Peters Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:02:01 +0000 http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/?p=808#comment-4642 I am not going to debate this here, Andrew, it is a particularly sensitive issue in NZ. The hymn makes no suggestion that conscientious objectors or anyone was "right". Removing the third verse I suggest would not make it a "pacifist hymn" so I think your analysis of the hymn in its totality is incorrect. It is not about presenting any theologies of war. ANZAC Day is about remembering those who were involved in war and pledging ourselves to treasure all that we have because of what they gave. I think the above hymn sensitively acknowledges conscientious objectors who have too often been written out of that story. Thank you for mentioning ‘For The Healing of The Nations’, readers can find it <a href="http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/f/f212.html" rel="nofollow">linked here</a>. Again, I do not read it quite as you do - but I think that is the value of poetry and hymns - we can often find different things that speak to our own particular needs and context. I am not going to debate this here, Andrew, it is a particularly sensitive issue in NZ. The hymn makes no suggestion that conscientious objectors or anyone was “right”. Removing the third verse I suggest would not make it a “pacifist hymn” so I think your analysis of the hymn in its totality is incorrect. It is not about presenting any theologies of war. ANZAC Day is about remembering those who were involved in war and pledging ourselves to treasure all that we have because of what they gave. I think the above hymn sensitively acknowledges conscientious objectors who have too often been written out of that story. Thank you for mentioning ‘For The Healing of The Nations’, readers can find it linked here. Again, I do not read it quite as you do – but I think that is the value of poetry and hymns – we can often find different things that speak to our own particular needs and context.

]]> By: andrew holden http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808#comment-4641 andrew holden Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:31:10 +0000 http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/?p=808#comment-4641 Ref: 'conscientious objectors' - their mistreatment doesn't mean they were right..... In the end it's a pacifist hymn with no concept of Just War - which is at very least ONE of the main Christian traditions about war. I like 'For The Healing of The Nations' but there's an extra verse which makes it more reflective of the Just War Tradition. Ref: ‘conscientious objectors’ – their mistreatment doesn’t mean they were right…..

In the end it’s a pacifist hymn with no concept of Just War – which is at very least ONE of the main Christian traditions about war.

I like ‘For The Healing of The Nations’ but there’s an extra verse which makes it more reflective of the Just War Tradition.

]]> By: Bosco Peters http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808#comment-2154 Bosco Peters Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:48:14 +0000 http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/?p=808#comment-2154 There is a specific tune and I indicate that. There is a specific tune and I indicate that.

]]> By: Sue Mosher http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808#comment-2144 Sue Mosher Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:41:28 +0000 http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/?p=808#comment-2144 What's the suggested tune for this hymn? What’s the suggested tune for this hymn?

]]> By: Bosco Peters http://liturgy.co.nz/anzac-day/808#comment-310 Bosco Peters Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:29:25 +0000 http://www.liturgy.co.nz/blog/?p=808#comment-310 Amongst other things, what is particularly poignant in the above hymn is the acknowledgement of conscientious objectors in the third verse. Amongst other things, what is particularly poignant in the above hymn is the acknowledgement of conscientious objectors in the third verse.

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