Comments on: July 26 Catholics & Anglicans share prayer

By: Chimezirim Odimba

Chimezirim Odimba — Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:23:51 +0000

This explains everything, that there can be unity if religion is set aside. It is so hard for the world to get united because of human interpretations and concepts and opinions. I think, I just think that if we set a side our religion for awhile, we can pray together.

By: Father Dave

Father Dave — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:50:13 +0000

I’m with Mike. Blame the Holy Spirit for binding us together in prayer

By: Bosco Peters

Bosco Peters — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:23:17 +0000

That explains the connections between the 1662 type BCP & the pre-Vatican II missal, but since then the Roman Catholic Church has had its own type of reformation and no longer uses the same “traditions and calendar” of the 16th Century. It is the surprising links between the recent liturgies of the last four decades that is being explored here.

By: Lisa

Lisa — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:19:07 +0000

I wonder if it isn’t simply that the Episcopalians kept using the same traditions and calendar after their break with the Catholic Church.

By: Bosco Peters

Bosco Peters — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:11:30 +0000

Thanks for the two names. And I think you are correct – currently it is sometimes difficult to notice these are actually the same collect – with the revised RC translation, whatever people may think about other parts – the collects/opening prayers I think will be improved.

By: Diana | TeamRCIA

Diana | TeamRCIA — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:42:56 +0000

You might check with Max Johnson, professor at Notre Dame. I had him as a teacher in grad school and he’s pretty obsessed with finding liturgical sources and following their lineage. Or Lizette Larson-Miller at the GTU in Berkeley.

Of course these similar Catholic collects may come to be translated more closely to the Episcopalian English after the next edition of English translations for the Roman Missal.

By: Bosco Peters

Bosco Peters — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:29:12 +0000

Thanks for your questions. The lectionary is the readings from the Bible appointed for a service. Sometimes “the Lectionary” refers to the book in which those set readings are edited and bound. You are correct, the collect/opening prayer is the prayer said just prior to the readings – this site has a particular focus on these – try the search box. Each week I provide history & commentary of the collect. You can find that from the blog or the home page.

By: davanna

davanna — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:49:47 +0000

I don’t get this. I am very ignorant about these things. Is the lectionary the sort of schedule of what is prayed when during Mass for any given week? The collect/opening prayer is obviously the prayer the priest prays right at the beginning of Mass, correct?

Could it be coincidence? What are the sources for these prayers?

Sorry to be so thick.

By: MikeCamel

MikeCamel — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:18:34 +0000

A very simple explanation: blame the Holy Spirit. Seems pretty obvious to me…

Or, a more prosaic explanation: there are only 52 Sundays in the year, and we’d expect a fair number of (what are known in the cryptographic world as) “collisions”. It’s not that surprising after all, if we reckon that we have a certain number of pretty special prayers that several traditions want to reuse.