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Most People Are OVER Church

Empty Church

Over twelve thousand people engaged with the post Millennials Are OVER Church. [Incidentally, far more did so on facebook than on the blog – which is itself worth further reflection].

The number one reaction to the post was: it is not just millennials who are over church. [The carping versions of that point would have criticised an article which praised plums as a lovely fruit by saying, “why are you forgetting about bananas – they are lovely fruit too?”!]

Yes, I agree with this first reaction: older people are leaving church and attending less frequently also.

The second reaction was disagreement with my post’s points. Older people said they would get millennials to argue against my points. The millennials never once complied to do so. Or older people said they knew of younger people who didn’t fit my generalisation. One person invited a pastor of a “successful large millennial church” to react. The reaction never came, but I managed to track down the church that was being talked about. This church has an attendance of seventy to eighty people, with the majority of those being millennials. This church sits in an area which has about 150,000 millennials.

So it’s very much the exception proving the rule.

And I also talked with a millennial who goes to this particular church, and I asked what makes it attractive to millennials? There was no hesitation – it was this church’s outward-looking, actual caring for people in real need. This was a primary point I was making in my original post.

We can and need to learn from the exceptions.

A repeated refrain in reaction to my post (including from older people in relation to themselves – not just to millennials) is that, in church, answers are being provided for questions that aren’t being asked. While there’s plenty of real needs, many churches seem to follow a paradigm of, rather than addressing those real, actual needs, trying to convince people of a need they aren’t aware of and then fulfilling this new need.

People want to come away from each and every service with something to feel, something to think about, and some concrete action they can actually go out and do.

We’ve just had Christmas services, and clergy put up photos of full churches and successful services. That’s great. Let’s be honest with ourselves – how have the Christmas-attendance statistics varied over years (decades)? How are the numbers looking in a region (nationally)? What percentages went to church this Christmas (and how are those percentages trending)?

More significantly – like the seventy-strong church with a high number of millennials – what is it that makes Christmas services attractive?



I have just been (re)reading Rev. Dr Jenny Dawson’s Towards a Radical Political Theology of Baptism (online here). I was taken by the statistics and the graph of baptism numbers from 1997-2006 in the NZ Anglican dioceses:

Baptism Stats

In the decade from 1997 to 2006, baptism numbers in our largest diocese halved. In most places they dropped by a third.

Our church keeps no national statistics. So, here, let me do this for you (with Jenny’s help): In 1997 there were 3,533 baptisms in the NZ dioceses. In 2006, there were 2,234. That’s a drop of 37% in a decade.

If my savings halved or dropped by about 40% (not even mentioning inflation – the equivalent of NZ’s population growth in this story) in a decade – I would be gravely concerned. If the church’s Trusts dropped in financial value by that much, I’m sure there would be grave concern! But tell me how widespread the drop in baptism numbers has even been noted?!


Further Reading

Millennials Are OVER Church
End of the Anglican Church?
End of the Anglican Church (part 2)?
End of the Anglican Church (part 3)?


Whether you regard the Christmas Season as concluding on Christmas Day, Epiphany, the Baptism of the Lord, Candlemas, the Sunday following Candlemas, or are Orthodox, or Armenian, and celebrate the Incarnation on another day and see the season differently… in the Southern Hemisphere, and certainly in Aotearoa-New Zealand, this is our go-slow time…

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Online Mission and Ministry


My e-friend, Fr Scott Gunn, recently reflected on there being no talking “about websites at the Evangelism Matters conference”. He was struggling to find service times at a nearby church. [All the discussion that follows there is worth a read – and joining in, of course].

Anyone who has been in the community around this site for a while will know what I think about the need to practise mission and ministry online – that is where people now live!

So, I set myself a little game. Randomly choose townships or suburbs in New Zealand, and from that see if I can find an Anglican Church, service times, and times for Christmas services. Here’s the results:

For ALL townships or suburbs I could find some nearby church information [That’s a positive start, isn’t it?!]

  • 10% Reference on a Diocesan website; No service times provided; click through to church website; no service times provided
  • 20% Reference on a Diocesan website; No church website; Sunday service times provided; No Christmas service times provided
  • 10% Reference on a diocesan website; Sunday service times provided; click through to church website; Sunday service times provided; No Christmas service times provided
  • 10% Reference on a church website; Sunday service times provided; No Christmas service times provided
  • 10% Reference on a church website; no service times provided
  • 10% Reference on a diocesan website; click through to a church list; click through to a specific church page on the diocesan website with no service times; click through to the church website with service times, and Christmas service times, on the front page
  • 10% Reference on a church website; Sunday service times provided; No Christmas service times provided
  • 10% Reference on a church website; Sunday service times provided; Click through to “upcoming events”: a blank page
  • 10% Reference on a church website; Sunday service times NOT provided; click through to “services”: ONLY Christmas service times provided

So from this little game, less than 3 weeks out from Christmas, if anyone wanted to plan to go to church this Christmas, 20% of people could find this through our internet presence and plan ahead. 80% could not.

Why don’t you try my little game? And do you have other reflections?

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New Zealand Lectionary 2017

Lectionary readings

Online, you will now find New Zealand’s Lectionary Te Maramataka 2017 PDF (1.99 MB – click link to download). [Note – this year, page numbers of the printed booklet are identical to the online version.] UPDATE: Thanks to Rev. Jason Granger who has spotted that the title for Sunday 1 January is incorrect. It should… Continue Reading


50th Anniversary Anglican Centre Rome

Primates Anglican

At 6pm this evening, Archbishop Justin Welby and Pope Francis will jointly lead a service at San Gregorio al Celio, Rome. The Sistine Chapel Choir and the choir of Canterbury Cathedral will be part of the service. This service marks the fiftieth anniversary of the founding of the Anglican Centre in Rome. Archbishop Justin will… Continue Reading


My Submission on Same-Sex Couples

holding hands

UPDATED (scroll down) I was not going to put in a submission. The Archbishops of our church have called for submissions to a Working Group after not moving forward on blessing committed same-sex couples at this year’s meeting of General Synod Te Hinota Whanui. So much energy has been spent on this feud, I didn’t… Continue Reading


Saint Teresa of Calcutta

Saint Teresa of Calcutta

I vividly remember meeting Mother Teresa when she visited Christchurch in 1973. Diminutive and looking quite fragile, she greeted the small gathering with radiant joy – she was then still relatively little known (her Nobel Peace Prize was 1979), so we could meet her individually. In 1981 I visited the Home for the Dying she… Continue Reading


Blessing Divorce and Marriage Equality


We have received a reply to my open letter to church leaders. Our church may be unique in formally disallowing marriage of divorcees whilst allowing blessing of committed same-sex couples. Read on. The topic in the Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia that engenders the most energy is (pick one): climate change and… Continue Reading