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Agreeing on The Holy Spirit

Agreeing on The Holy Spirit

No sooner have we been having our own discussion on this site about the Filioque (“and the Son” – absent in the original Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed of 325/381 AD but added solely by the West to follow directly after, “The Holy Spirit who proceeds from the Father…”) than theologians from the Anglican Communion and Oriental Orthodox… Continue Reading

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Come Out Of and Proceeding

Come Out Of and Proceeding

Yes – sometimes people actually disagree. But, often people “talk past each other” – they believe the same thing(s) but express them differently… Or, they may sound like they are answering the same question – appear to be doing so – but they are actually answering different questions. And that is especially the case when… Continue Reading

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And The Son Again

And The Son Again

When New Zealand’s 1988 General Synod met to go through our NZ Anglican Prayer Book line by line, the Prayer Book Commission had inserted an International Consultation on English Texts (ICET) 1987 discussion draft version of the Nicene Creed. The Prayer Book Commission thought General Synod had voted it through as a place holder and… Continue Reading

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Anglican and Oriental Orthodox Ecumenism

Anglican and Oriental Orthodox Ecumenism

The agreement from a recent meeting of the Anglican-Oriental Orthodox International Commission (AOOIC), Christology – Agreed Statement by the Anglican-Oriental Orthodox International Commission, heals the centuries-old split between the Anglican churches within the family of Chalcedonian Churches and the non-Chalcedonian churches over the incarnation of Christ. I highly recommend that you read it. Both families… Continue Reading

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Pope Francis in the Holy Land

Pope Francis in the Holy Land

Pope Francis’ visit to the Holy Land (24-26 May) – Jordan; Palestine; Israel. It has the motto “So that they may be one”. The centre of his pilgrimage is the meeting with Greek Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople and the heads of the Churches in Jerusalem. The logo for the pilgrimage (image above) expresses this… Continue Reading

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Filioque

Filioque

“Filioque” refers to the Latin, “and the Son”, added to the ecumenically agreed creed unilaterally in the West. Whatever your opinion about the inner workings of the Trinity – I see no reason to add words to the creed when reciting it. [Note this is not a discussion about Jesus giving us the Holy Spirit… Continue Reading

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And the Son

And the Son

Filioque The “Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed” (normally referred to as the “Nicene” Creed) has Καὶ εἰς τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ Ἅγιον, τὸ κύριον, τὸ ζῳοποιόν, τὸ ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐκπορευόμενον (And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, from the Father proceeding) But the Latin text used in the Western Church has the Holy Spirit… Continue Reading

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